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Andrew Harris in 2016
Andrew Harris

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November 27

Business and economy
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Science and technology
  • Twitter says that it will begin deleting inactive accounts outside the United States on December 11. Accounts inactive for longer than six months will have until December 11 to log in to avoid deletion, it will be the first large scale cull of inactive accounts on the social media platform. (BBC)

RD: Jonathan Miller

Article: Jonathan Miller (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Guardian BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Important writer and theatre director. Article needs quite a bit of work. Black Kite (talk) 15:42, 27 November 2019 (UTC))

(Posted) 2019 Albania earthquake

Article: 2019 Albania earthquake (, history)
Blurb: ​At least 24 people have been killed and 650 injured in an earthquake in Albania.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article is well referenced and enough for ITN Sherenk1 (talk) 07:13, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Short but well composed article, death toll somewhat larger than expected for that part of the world. Updated blurb with casualty numbers from the article.130.233.2.197 (talk) 07:33, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support A well referenced article about a notable event. --Λeternus (talk) 08:33, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support This was one of the strongest and deadliest tremors in the region for years. Media still focus their attention on the aftermath and international aid sent.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:40, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posting. --Tone 10:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Godfrey Gao

Article: Godfrey Gao (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): WWD, Straits Times, Vancouver Sun
Credits:

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Taiwanese-Canadian model and actor. Article is well-sourced. Morgan695 (talk) 05:15, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support - Career section could be expanded, but Filmography section is well cited, so looks good enough ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:27, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Yeshi Dhonden

Article: Yeshi Dhonden (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): https://www.tibetsun.com/news/2019/11/26/renowned-tibetan-doctor-yeshi-dhonden-passes-away
Credits:

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The Tibetan doctor. All the paragraphs end with a cite but please attach them to some sentences if possible. ミラP 01:28, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Weak Support - Article is cited very well but it is close to a stub ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:25, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Article is short, concised. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 15:29, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

November 26

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(Ready) RD: Gary Rhodes

Article: Gary Rhodes (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC Independent
Credits:

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: UK celebrity chef. I've tidied it up and cited what I can at the moment but it still needs a bit of work. Black Kite (talk) 10:38, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Note I think this is pretty much cited now. Black Kite (talk) 15:00, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good.-- P-K3 (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support now that some citations have been added. Thanks Black Kite! ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 15:33, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Georgian protests

Article: 2019 Georgian protests (, history)
Ongoing item nomination
News source(s): See article
Credits:

Article updated

 Banedon (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose I have read the article twice and have no idea what is going on. Also I have no sense that these are massive demonstrations of the sort we may cover as opposed to the relatively run of the mill, which we do not. The article is confusing and I am not even certain that anything of significance is still going on. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:28, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose This cannot possibly go to Ongoing, because the protests have ended. The article is terrible, and does not portray events chronologically. It's discussing things from June under Reactions to protests which ended two weeks ago. The format of the article suggests that it was, or might have been, an election article that got COATRACKED into it's current form. Additionally, I check Russian language media outside of Russia and found nothing about this.130.233.2.197 (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose both per above and because the article barely mentions protests that are currently happening (i.e. in the news) ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:23, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Hong Kong protests

Article: 2019 Hong Kong protests (, history)
Ongoing item nomination
Credits:

Nominator's comments: This disappeared off ongoing for some reason, so I'm renominating it. Banedon (talk) 22:42, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Reason for renomination? It was likely removed because of the similar election article.  Nixinova T C   22:47, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
They're different articles. Related because they're different aspects of the same story, but still separate. Banedon (talk) 22:51, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. I think having the blurb about the election is enough. Once that is about to get bumped off of ITN, I think the protests should be readded to Ongoing and a conversation opened up about whether it should be taken down. --PlasmaTwa2 00:45, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Having the blurb is sufficient.--WaltCip (talk) 00:47, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment The blurb should be modified so that the protest article is included in it, for context. ― Hebsen(previously Heb the best) (talk) 01:19, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Updated election blurb to include link to protests. SpencerT•C 01:35, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support restoring to ongoing once the blurb, which is now second from the bottom, rolls off. Davey2116 (talk) 03:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose the article had not been "continuously updated" as stipulated by WP:ITN for some time, instead getting sporadic, non-specific one sentence updates like "On 2 November, a mostly peaceful but unapproved election gathering at Victoria Park saw police quickly responding by employing tear gas". The election is a good to transition this off the main page. If you want to nominate a different article then fine but this one is a no-go for me.--LaserLegs (talk) 03:21, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait until the current blurb falls off the main page. Then reassess and renominate if it looks justified. My guess is that we have not heard the last of this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:30, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose The problem that LaserLegs mentions is very real. While this event is indeed in the news, the updates are very poor and serve more to keep the article in Ongoing than to inform the reader. Nearly all of the updates can be called "crime blotter" or "routine protest events". Crime in Chicago likely impacts the lives of English Wikipedia readers more, generates more deaths and political frustration than this event, and yet we don't update the article with meticulous details and perma-post it to the Main Page. Because ITN is not a news ticker, and we apply some editorial discretion about "what is encyclopedic" when posting. Additionally, the article is plagued by UNDUE and BIAS, and my own efforts to get clear BLP violations fixed revealed an recalcitrant and entrenched editor clique. The best thing that ITN can do for this event is to blurb genuinely notable developments.130.233.2.197 (talk) 07:58, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Although I am opposed to putting this item back on the ongoing ticker, the above rationale is utter nonsense. The Hong Kong protests and shootings in Chicago are nowhere near on the same level of international importance.--WaltCip (talk) 15:53, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

November 25

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(Posted) RD: Frank Biondi

Article: Frank Biondi (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:05, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Looks good to me. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:50, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Small article but is cited well ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:26, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I only looked briefly at this, a couple of unsourced items. It might be better to expand it first and cite it, rather than promote it and let it get expanded with unsourced material. Feel very not strongly about it and barely looked at the article, just a note. Kees08 (Talk) 16:12, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support I see no problems. Taewangkorea (talk) 17:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • plus Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:09, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Dresden heist

Article: 2019 Dresden heist (, history)
Blurb: ​Several hundred diamonds and jewelled items are stolen from the Dresden Castle in Germany.
News source(s): BBC, etc
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: While the €1 billion total value is currently unconfirmed, this is reported to be the largest diamond heist since WWII at least. Brandmeistertalk 23:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Interesting, has expansive coverage, and the article is in pretty good shape. Teemu08 (talk) 02:51, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support shocking heist, widely reported. -Zanhe (talk) 05:02, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Clearly related to the latest Rick & Morty episode. (j/c - noteworthy theft, article up to par). --Masem (t) 05:53, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support I am not typically a big fan of crime related nominations, but this is highly unusual on multiple levels. The article looks to be in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support This is an interesting story and thefts of such valuable items don't occur very often.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:47, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support although in my variant of English, we'd just say "... from Dresden Castle ..." rather than "... from the Dresden Castle ..." The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:26, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • plus Posted. Tweaked the blurb a bit, to resolve RM's concern above and also to link Dresden Castle. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:53, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
    I think we should also mention/link Grünes Gewölbe or "Green Vault Museum" — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:56, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 107th Grey Cup

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Article: 107th Grey Cup (, history)
Blurb: ​In Canadian football, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers defeat the Hamilton Tiger-Cats to win the 107th Grey Cup.
Alternative blurb: ​In Canadian football, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers defeat the Hamilton Tiger-Cats to win the Grey Cup (MVP Andrew Harris pictured).
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

 PlasmaTwa2 20:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support - Well cited and nice to see a solid prose summary of the game ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 20:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. A well developed article with a good update. Seems fine to me. Modest Genius talk 20:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Article details a North American sports championship game, which is in line with other similar featured articles. Includes strong details and summaries. Cmm3 (talk) 21:33, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - ITN/R, quality is good. -Zanhe (talk) 05:03, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Andrew Harris being named the game MVP should be sourced and in prose. (Incidentally, he also was named the Most Outstanding Canadian, the first to win both[1])Bagumba (talk) 05:17, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
    Done. --PlasmaTwa2 06:16, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
    SupportBagumba (talk) 07:24, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted, waiting for image protection before changing the image. Someone else is welcome to add it once it is protected; it may be an hour or so before I can. 331dot (talk) 07:37, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Image now changed. 331dot (talk) 07:52, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: George Clements

Article: George Clements (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 GreatCaesarsGhost 19:23, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

*Weak Support The article is a bit promotional and sounds like a resume. Also, some parts are unsourced. However, I think that they are relatively minor fixes. Taewangkorea (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Change to Weak Oppose until the issues are fixed. Taewangkorea (talk) 17:42, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose CN's need fixing before posting. The many short sections might better be rolled into one large section titled Church initiatives or similar. The lede contains information which is not explained by prose in the article: "He is also well known for his involvement in civil rights activities during a period that extended from the late 1960s to present".130.233.2.197 (talk) 06:28, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose too much of it is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:28, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

November 24

Armed conflicts and attacks
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International relations
  • Foreign relations of Tuvalu
    • Tuvaluan Foreign Minister Simon Kofe says Tuvalu rejects Chinese offers to build artificial islands for his country, which deals with rising sea levels because Tuvalu sees the offers as an "attempt to reduce Taiwanese influence in the Pacific region". Tuvalu is one of four Pacific nations to recognize Taiwan in the One-China policy dispute. (RNZ)
Politics and elections
Sports

(Posted) RD: Colin Mawby

Article: Colin Mawby (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Contemporary Music Centre Ireland
Credits:

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sad. Was a DYK article in 2012 but I found many sources gone and had to replace them. Lovely person whom I met. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support. Looks well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:01, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Seconding Martinevans123's sentiments ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:29, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – Marked ready. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Kees08 (Talk) 16:00, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 2019 Romanian presidential election

Proposed image
Article: 2019 Romanian presidential election (, history)
Blurb: Klaus Iohannis is re-elected as President of Romania
Alternative blurb: ​After failing to receive a majority of votes in the first round, Klaus Iohannis (pictured) of the National Liberal Party is re-elected as President of Romania in a runoff election.
Alternative blurb II: Klaus Iohannis (pictured) of the National Liberal Party is re-elected President of Romania.
News source(s): DW, EuroNews
Credits:

Article updated

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

 2601:602:9200:1310:255D:8BC0:E8A0:2C21 (talk) 03:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Very good election article. Cursory looksee of refs looks fine. ITNR.130.233.2.197 (talk) 07:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak support - Article looks well referenced, but I think there could be more prose in the Results section. I've also added an Altblurb as the original seemed a bit bland ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Imperfect, but nothing worth keeping it off the MP. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support both blurbs. No red flags. Taewangkorea (talk) 18:09, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • plus Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • 'After failing to receive a majority of votes in the first round' seems an unnecessary detail and an overly negative way of introducing the blurb. The entire clause could be deleted, as could 'in a runoff election'. Modest Genius talk 20:28, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    If the original blurb is considered better, we can switch to that? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:45, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    MSGJ, I think that might be best. A run-off election 2 weeks after the first round is not very notable. It seems like the usual course of how elections progress in Romania, looking at the previous years. There has been a second round in every election since 1992. It is nowhere close to what is happening in Israel. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    But keep the party as in altblurb2. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:19, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    Seems like User:Stephen has already done it, whether by reading this or unilaterally — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    Unilaterally. I didn't spot the discussion here. Stephen 02:48, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
    I originally posted it to WP:ERRORS, where it would be seen more quickly, but for some reason User:MSGJ moved it here. Modest Genius talk 14:24, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Simon

Article: John Simon (critic) (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 GreatCaesarsGhost 15:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support condition on the 3 citation needed templates being fixed. Taewangkorea (talk) 18:11, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    • I spy one more citation needed template (updating in case anyone was looking to promote) Kees08 (Talk) 07:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
    • Found a citation for it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support, providing his awards are sourced. Not the most popular fellow in the theater circle. Jip Orlando (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
    • Looks like this has been addressed. Kees08 (Talk) 07:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Ref formatting could use some work Kees08 (Talk) 07:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 2019 Hong Kong local elections

Article: 2019 Hong Kong local elections (, history)
Blurb: ​In Hong Kong, the pro-democracy camp wins control of 17 of the 18 district councils in local elections.
Alternative blurb: ​In Hong Kong, the pro-democracy camp wins control of 17 of the 18 district councils in local elections, in the biggest landslide in the city's electoral history.
Alternative blurb II: ​In Hong Kong, the pro-democracy camp wins a large majority of district council seats in local elections.
News source(s): NYT, CNN, BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: These are nominally 'local' elections, which we don't usually post. However, the district councils are the only wholly and directly elected part of the Hong Kong government. And, the huge turnout and the pro-democracy camp's large victory here has important political ramifications for the protest movement going forwards. These elections are already getting international coverage. Davey2116 (talk) 00:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Unprecedented turn out with ousting of Pro-Beijing candidates. District Councils: Pre election: 124 seats were held by Pro-democracy members 331 by Pro-Beijing ; After election 389 seats were Pro-democracy 89 Pro-Beijing. "The pro-democrats delivered the biggest landslide in Hong Kong history, seizing control of 17 of the 18 District Councils, tripling their seats from about 124 to 389, and would be able to capture the 117 seats in the Election Committee District Council subsectors which was responsible for electing the Chief Executive." Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support as before we don't usually post local elections, but this one is unique in both coverage and significance. The only question is whether to remove the Hong Kong protests from Ongoing with this as a blurb. I think not: they are separate events. Banedon (talk) 01:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose have we posted HK elections in the past? (I know we've spit venom at other "local elections"). If this is significant because of the protests, then it's covered well enough by the ongoing item which has been sitting in the box for nearly 8 months. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose we don't post local elections. This one may be more notable than the average local election, but then on the other hand the Hong Kong protests are already covered in ongoing. If this is the defining moment in the protests, then I could see posting this, but as of right now there's no sign that this will change anything with regard to the ongoing protests. NorthernFalcon (talk) 02:43, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Opposeper above. We don't post local elections at ITN. Ongoing should have this covered. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support removing from 'ongoing' and replacing with ALT3 blurb and then afterwards making a determination whether it is still "ongoing". Per the linked NYT story, this was not just a local election, this election took on outsize significance, and was viewed as a referendum on the unrest that has created the city’s worst political crisis in decades. ALT3 blurb suggestion: 2019 Hong Kong local elections result in the biggest landslide in the city's history, with the pro-democracy camp winning 17 out of 18 district council seats. Levivich 04:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment - Was going to nominate myself but seeing the previous oppose to local election nominations, did not do so. However we can see that this is top news worldwide and the article is well referenced with sufficient prose. We can do an exception in this case, we are not saying that local elections should be ITNR. Sherenk1 (talk) 06:13, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Levivich's proposal. Anything which is top news on both Reuters and Agence France Presse (11/25/2019 - 06:36 story, and see the editor's choice left and centre videos) should easily qualify for a blurb. The outcome was "nothing short of a revolution", Hong Kong political analyst Willy Lam said. "It's a sound repudiation of the (Hong Kong) administration and Beijing's policy toward Hong Kong." starship.paint (talk) 06:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support add blurb/remove from Ongoing. ITNR is not a requirement for posting; non-ITNR items may be posted after establishing significance, and this meets that criteria. The article is in good shape. Elections are considered by all parties to be significant events, whereas the protest details are very routine and would get SNOWed if nominated alone. We can add the protests back to Ongoing if necessary.130.233.2.197 (talk) 07:28, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. They may be local elections but, given the current situation in Hong Kong, they are clearly significant enough to feature on the front page of major international news outlets. I also think this can be compatible with keeping the protests article in the Ongoing section; the articles are related and complement each other as they each tackle different aspects of the situation. Conejero intl (talk) 11:00, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Local elections though they may be, there is an extraordinary amount of international attention being paid to them by the news media. As it's in the news, we'd be remiss not to include it.--WaltCip (talk) 12:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Went with the original blurb. --Jayron32 13:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • PP support – Interesting that they allowed any election at all. – Sca (talk) 14:10, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Can we modify the blurb so that the 2019 Hong Kong protests are included in the blurb, for example by appending , held during protests to it? This context is what makes these elections important. ― Hebsen(previously Heb the best) (talk) 19:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree with the suggestions made by @Hebsen:. The election is significant, not only because of pro-democratic bloc's victory, but also because it essentially functions as a referendum to show that the public is still supporting the Hong Kong protesters. OceanHok (talk) 14:14, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Goo Hara

Article: Goo Hara (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, The Independent
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: South Korean K-pop singer was found dead in her house. Most likely suicide. --SirEdimon (talk) 16:49, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

2019 Davis Cup

Article: 2019 Davis Cup (, history)
Blurb: ​In tennis, the Davis Cup concludes with Spain winning their sixth title.
News source(s): BBC, Eurosport
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The Davis Cup is the premier international team event in men's tennis. Known as the "World Cup" of tennis, it is one of the few tennis events in which players are part of national teams. Conejero intl (talk) 07:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose - Limited prose in the article, specifically about the results of the matches ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Acceptable. STSC (talk) 19:09, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) 2019 Copa Libertadores Final

Article: 2019 Copa Libertadores Final (, history)
Blurb: ​In association football, Flamengo defeats River Plate to win the Copa Libertadores Final
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: This was nominated last year and posted, and it's the most significant club soccer match outside of Europe. There's also a bit of political background to it as the match was postponed and moved due to the Chilean protests. The article however could use a little bit of updating before being posted. NorthernFalcon (talk) 11:22, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support. Article seems to have been updated after the match with the latest developments. Clearly a very notable game. MSN12102001 (talk) 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is not how sporting event pages need to be updated. There's no prose on the game itself. 2019 Copa Libertadores Final#Match needs prose. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose no summary of the match. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose but will support if a summary of the match itself is added Taewangkorea (talk) 23:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – This is ITNR and appears ready to post. There is now a sourced match summary. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:36, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. A prose summary of the match has been added and the article seems good enough to me. I've just done a copyedit. Modest Genius talk 14:03, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • plus Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Liu Shahe

Article: Liu Shahe (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Paper
Credits:

Article updated

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(Closed) Murder of Grace Millane

No consensus to post. SpencerT•C 17:22, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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Article: Murder of Grace Millane (, history)
Blurb: ​A 27 year old man has been convicted of the murder of 22 year old tourist Grace Millane in New Zealand.
News source(s): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/403901/guilty-verdict-in-grace-millane-murder-trial
Credits:
Nominator's comments: High profile murder case in New Zealand which has received international coverage. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:54, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose good faith nom. Even in the middle of this unusually slow period at ITN, I don't think we should be posting tabloid news. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Not considered "tabloid" in nz and the failure of the "rough sex" defence is legally significant. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 04:34, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Indeed, as per this article, "Concern grows over ‘rough sex gone wrong’ defence in courts", in The Guardian [4]. The case - from her disappearance to the murder trial - was certainly not tabloid news in Australia either. RebeccaGreen (talk) 06:45, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn't say it was tabloid in the UK either, and whole case is significant there because of how NZ always seen as safe for single female travelers. Kingsif (talk) 04:49, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose A murder verdict is legit major breaking news, by any court reporter's standards, but a weird time to start publicizing a story. Save updates for previous ITN-featured allegations, suspects or victims. Less jarring for the unfamiliar that way. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:02, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
    • Comment If this story was going to be featured, conviction is the correct time - ITN does not feature allegations, suspects or charges in almost all instances (in part due to WP:BLP considerations). Crimes do sometimes feature when they happen, but that's judged on individual merit at the time. Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose May be a high profile NZ case, but it doesn't have international ramifications. --Masem (t) 05:08, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
The victim, her parents and most everyone who'd know her to miss her were and will be dealing with this in England long after what's-his-name stops bothering New Zealanders. But yeah, the NZ news is hit harder than the UK press. Ri Chun-hee is apparently unmoved, for better or worse. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:55, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
I'd also add that the people involved here were not high profile, in contrast to the Oscar Pistorius case which I know we did post despite arguing also having no significant international importance. May be high profile in the country of interest (and this would go for any US case too, we aren't special in that regard) but its easy in such a case to judge how international media is coveraging it to know if it has recognizability beyond the country borders. --Masem (t) 15:17, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not of major international significance.  Nixinova T C   05:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose A run-of-the-mill murder case blown out of proportion by the media. Lcmortensen (mailbox) 06:30, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per Masem, et al. – Sca (talk) 15:13, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Though tragic, I don't believe this belongs on the first page. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 17:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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William Wang (defector)

Article: William Wang (defector) (talk, history)
Blurb: No blurb specified
News source(s): see Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia version
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Defector making allegations about Chinese government involvement in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Australia Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Stub article, no blurb, no sources presented. I don't speak Mandarin so why would I go to the Mandarin Wikipedia? Further, your nom comment suggests the story is about a defector making allegations. That doesn't mean they're true. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:09, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support on significance - it's seeing a lot of coverage in different countries. The allegations have been taken seriously as well, with Taiwan opening investigations already. However, the article is threadbare right now; it'll need more details to be posted. Banedon (talk) 01:29, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose It's hard to tell yet whether the guy is a real spy or not, but he's quite possibly a fraudster, see The Age. In any case, this does not rise to the significance of a blurb (at first glance I thought it was an RD nomination). -Zanhe (talk) 04:14, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The article is mostly reaction to his defection, might fail WP:1E, and seems to have WP:BLP issues. There's no indication of any major significance or even if his allegations are plausible. The nomination was incomplete ('see Mandarin Wikipedia' is not a legitimate source) and gives no rationale either. Modest Genius talk 14:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Not proven allegations from someone just wanted to stay in Australia. STSC (talk) 19:06, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Stephen Cleobury

Article: Stephen Cleobury (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Death announced on 23rd. Choral conductor best known for annual Christmas broadcasts of Carols from Kings for 37 years, broadcast internationally. Klbrain (talk) 15:13, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment: Thank you for the nomination! I am still working on it, CDs need refs (will do that next). Formatting of refs is substandard, facts could be added. Sad. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Update: Added a few more facts from a Guardian obit. A note the addition of further referencing for the CDs by Gerda Arendt, which look good. Klbrain (talk) 18:04, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Update: all referenced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support the "as conductor" section should be in chronological order, but the rest is okay, so fine for me. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:19, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support, all sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support, and thank you to User:Martinevans123 and User:Gerda Arendt for their work on this, you've really turned this around. Rob (talk) 21:41, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Kees08 (Talk) 22:36, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Arthur Marks

Article: Arthur Marks (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: C Class article, needs volunteers to help with the sourcing. Death announced on 22. DBigXray 09:29, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Michael J. Pollard

Article: Michael J. Pollard (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Start Class article, needs volunteers to help with the sourcing. Death announced on 22. DBigXray 09:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Henry Sobel

Article: Henry Sobel (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Globo.com, Folha de S. Paulo
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: The most important rabbi in Brazilian recent history. The article has some ref issues, but I hope to fix it in the next hours. --SirEdimon (talk) 01:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment I am not wowed by the overall quality of the article. There are orange tags which are a showstopper at ITN. And frankly the article seems to have a lot of gaps. It needs expansion and more details on his life. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:18, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose I agree with the tags: the article is 45% bio, 45% arrest/hospitalization, 10% other. Probably not balanced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:23, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

RD: Gugu Liberato

Article: Gugu Liberato (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Globo.com, Folha de S. Paulo, Veja, Time24News
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: One of the greatest Brazilian TV presenter ever. Widely popular in the country. Died from a domestic acident. The article has several issues, but I'm working on it.. I believe I fixed them all. --SirEdimon (talk) 01:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose - orange tagged for references. Thryduulf (talk) 12:42, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Too many paragraphs are still unreferenced. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 17:06, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Referencing fixed. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 21:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Did he really fall from the ceiling? Or did he fall off a roof? Zagalejo^^^ 18:00, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
    • Zagalejo According to the reports in the Brazilian press he was changing the filter in one air conditioning equipment on the ceiling when he fell and hit his head on the floor.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Thryduulf and Lefcentreright I think I fixed all the ref issues.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:31, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Looks better now. – Ammarpad (talk)
  • Weak oppose what's there seems cited, but it's a little hagiographical for me. It's all about how great he was. And I'm not enamoured by phrases like Santos was about to undergo a delicate surgery and made a millionaire proposal to Gugu because (a) I don't understand "a delicate surgery" and (b) "a millionaire proposal" sounds proper tabloid. It's just one example of the floral and overtly positive writing. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
    • @SirEdimon: Would you be able to address TRMs weak oppose? Kees08 (Talk) 16:01, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
      • Kees08 and The Rambling Man Actually, this story that TRM calls "hagiographical" is real and widely known in Brazil. Silvio Santos (SBT's owner and Brazilian most important TV's host) was about to undergo a surgery that could have made him voiceless and convinced Gugu (who had already signed a contract with Globo) to return to SBT offering him a huge amount of money , which made him, at that time, the better paid TV host in Brazil. But to address TRM concerns I can use the exact words and values. Like "Santos was about to undergo a delicate surgery in his vocal chords, which could strongly affect his voice and made a millionaire proposal to Gugu, offering him much of the Sunday's programming schedule, a minimum wage of USD 50,000 per month and USD 300,000 in advance plus holdings in merchandising and ads, which made him the better-paid TV's host in Brazil at that time" or something like this. What do you think? If TRM has other concerns I can also try to address them. If you want to check, there's a source here. It's in Portuguese, but you can translate it and have a good idea about the story I'm telling.--SirEdimon (talk) 02:19, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Colombia protests

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Article: 2019 Colombian protests (, history)
Blurb: ​Three people are killed on the first day of anti-government protests in Colombia (pictured).
Alternative blurb: ​Three people are killed on the first day of anti-government protests in Colombia (pictured), amid growing unrest across Latin America.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Could in some way tie it to the final absolute jump-off point of the new Latin American SpringKingsif (talk) 00:53, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Could use a little more expansion about what led to the protests in the first place, but meets minimum standards. SpencerT•C 17:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Sadly, three deaths in a protest just isnt a notable blurb in today's world. Perhaps post to ongoing, but no new additions since the 22nd.—Bagumba (talk) 07:24, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
    • It's at seven deaths (in the first 2 days), I just thought three on the first day was rather notable. Compared to only one death in HK protests all year. Kingsif (talk) 16:56, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose like Bagumba, the initial story is "meh" and yet the article seems to be suggesting this is an ongoing issue. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:26, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support blurb and ongoing later. Hundreds of thousands of people involved, dominates national news, etc. Banedon (talk) 01:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Globally and regionally significant news. STSC (talk) 19:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 03:26, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Remove: Trump impeachment inquiry

No consensus for removal. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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Article: Impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump (, history)
Ongoing item removal
Nominator's comments: Lots of sound and fury this week, but nothing major beyond a handful of witness testimonies. It might be best to revisit re-posting this to the main page once there's an actual impeachment vote in the Senate. As it is now, both sides seem pretty firmly entrenched in their positions. --WaltCip (talk) 13:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep Slow week? Did you forget your winking smiley after this? Tuesday and Wednesday's testimony was the most substantial event since the whistle-blower. Also the impeachment vote is in the house; the removal vote is in the Senate. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep until he is acquitted, resigns or is removed. It's going to be front page news everywhere until them, and we serve our readers by helping them find reliable information about this topic. Jehochman Talk 13:53, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
    Exactly the same could be said for Brexit. And actually, Trump's impeachment is nowhere near front page news in the UK, whereas Brexit and our general election (as a result of Brexit deadlock) most certainly is. We could serve our (non-American) readers well by restoring Brexit if this argument holds any water. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:44, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep I supported removal last time but after this week, how could we remove it? ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Remove per nom. If we were considering these events in isolation, they would not be posted as individual ITN items until the final vote. SpencerT•C 15:04, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Remove The event is going to take months (between the current questioning, the House forming and voting on the terms of impeachment, etc.) It's major news, and there's a ton of coverage of it in US sources, but its going to be like this through the end of the Congressional term before they take their holiday break, and likely to continue into Jan and Feb. Clearly, if the House votes to pass the terms of impeachment, that's a blurb, and at the point if the Senate holds their sessions to actually determine if to convict, that might be where ongoing would be appropriate again since that would be more reasonably limited in its time frame (a month or so). --Masem (t) 15:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep This is what ongoing is for. The article continues to be updated, as the process is ongoing. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose – (keep) – Developments continue. Today DT sez he wants to be impeached. This is the most significant political topic in the U.S. since the days of "I am not a crook." [5]Sca (talk) 16:39, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. Per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 16:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep Article has been updated essentially daily, and has a full paragraph of new information just about the events of yesterday. Meets all of the requirements for Ongoing items in spades. --Jayron32 16:52, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per Muboshgu and Jayron. I have to say that "nothing major beyond a handful of witness testimonies" is quite an understatement considering how much coverage they generated.-- P-K3 (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Still in the news, still updated frequently. Davey2116 (talk) 21:07, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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UK misses an UNGA deadline to hand over Chagos Archipelago to Mauritius

Article: Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute (, history)
Blurb: ​The African Union denounces the United Kingdom for its "continued colonial administration" of the Chagos Archipelago as it fails to meet the 22 November deadline set by the United Nations General Assembly to hand over the islands to Mauritius.
News source(s): African Union, Anadolu Agency, Euronews, TeleSUR
Credits:

Nominator's comments: This is a significant development in the history of decolonisation, the Chagos Archipelago is the last remaining European colony in Africa and among the last in the world. Also highlights the UK's disregard for an UNGA resolution which almost unanimously decided that the occupation of the islands is illegal. Viva Nicolás (talk) 16:07, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article has no update, unclear the significance of missing the deadline, and seems more written for WP:RGW than ITN. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • There are no updates in the article and it is too long. An interesting story, otherwise. Would support if the article was ok. --Tone 16:16, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Holy quotes... article is not really up to par, hasn't been updated yet, and per Muboshgu, we're not trying to WP:RGW ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 16:48, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The UNGA is a largely toothless body, aside from the RGW issue. 331dot (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - Must tell the world about this. STSC (talk) 19:19, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
That's what the news is for, not Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 19:24, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) Half-Life: Alyx

Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 02:07, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Article: Half-Life: Alyx (, history)
Blurb: ​In video games, Valve Corporation announces Half-Life: Alyx, the first game in its series since 2007.
News source(s): Polygon Gamespot engadget The Verge
Credits:
Nominator's comments: I agree that most video game-related news are unfit for ITN, however this specific event is something that has been rumored for decades and has become legendary over the years - it already googles over 23 million. Gaioa (T C L) 09:09, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose posting a product announcement not covered in depth in mainstream media(not just niche publications). 331dot (talk) 09:12, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per 331dot. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:23, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose an announcement of a video game? Nope. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:28, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The scheduled release isn't even until March. If at that time this game becomes front-page news in mainstream publications, let's talk. Funcrunch (talk) 20:31, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose - I will commit every waking breath of mine on Wikipedia to ensure a video game item never makes it to ITN, or else may God strike me dead. This particular item is not especially notable. WaltCip (talk) 21:27, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Even as a VG centric editor and aware how major this is in that industry, this is clearly not ITN. ITN is not really for any type of product announcements regardless of how much an impact they could have in that industry. --Masem (t) 21:33, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose if it's released and becomes a phenomenon (see Pokemon Go) then maybe, but until then this is premature. Banedon (talk) 01:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: John Mann

Article: John Mann (musician) (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Globe and Mail
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Lead singer of the band Spirit of the West died November 20. The bio is reasonably well referenced. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:19, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) Wataru Misaka

Article: Wataru Misaka (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Japanese-American basketball player was the first non-white player in the Basketball Association of America, later known as the NBA. —Bagumba (talk) 04:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Needs a citation for the career statistics but it otherwise looks good. Thryduulf (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
    @Thryduulf: Citation added now. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 10:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - can't find any problems with this article ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:28, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • plus Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:03, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Fábio Barreto

Article: Fábio Barreto (, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Folha de S. Paulo, Globo.com
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Brazilian film director. His film O Quatrilho was nominated for a Academy Award for Best International Feature Film in 1996. He died after 10 years in coma. The article has several refs issues, but I'm working on it . I believe I fixed them all. --SirEdimon (talk) 01:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment IMDb is used a reference four times. The article appears well-referenced outside of that. Hrodvarsson (talk) 04:15, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • One citation missing, which I've tagged, but its not a crucial sentence so if you can't easily find a citation you can probably just remove it. Once that's sorted though this will be good to go. Thryduulf (talk) 09:25, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - per the change made as requested by Thryduulf, looks good to go ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 12:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 13:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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